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0:00

Kevin Rose starts the party like it's 2004.

0:47

Ev's first internet product.

2:46

How technology became social for Ev.

4:18

The simple idea behind Mozi.

6:25

Strategic quitting vs. sunk-cost perseverance.

7:47

How Odeo begat Twitter.

14:49

Twitter's $11,000 SXSW 2007 inflection point.

18:38

Ev's hopes for Mozi's evolution.

20:08

Favorite books and information inputs.

21:42

Raising a generation to co-exist with AI.

26:08

Ev's billboard.

32:14

How Ev learned to manage his feelings.

35:04

Facing strangers as an introvert with the Hoffman Process.

36:19

Recently adopted habits that have galvanized positive change.

39:08

The silver lining of being fired from Twitter.

42:04

Contemplating how the universe works with The One by Heinrich Päs.

45:02

How Ev stocks his reading list arsenal.

47:00

Big thoughts on a Medium regret.

50:29

Resisting the urge to bloat Mozi with superfluous features.

53:02

How Mozi balances privacy with utility.

56:02

Parting thoughts.

58:08
Co-Founder of Blogger, Twitter, Medium, and Mozi — The Art of Pivoting, Strategic Quitting, and More
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Ev Williams is the co-founder of Mozi, a new social network that helps you connect in person with the people you care about. Go to https://mozi.app to check it out. Over the past 25 years, Ev has co-founded several companies that have helped shape the modern internet—including Blogger, Medium, and Twitter. This episode was recorded live at Diggnation, where digg.com was relaunched. Go to https://digg.com and sign up to get early access when invites go out. Sponsors: David Protein Bars 28g of protein, 150 calories, and 0g of sugar: https://davidprotein.com/tim (Buy 4 cartons, get the 5th free.) Sundays for Dogs ultra-high-quality dog food: https://sundaysfordogs.com/tim (save 50% on your first order) Wealthfront high-yield cash account: https://Wealthfront.com/Tim (Start earning 4.00% APY on your short-term cash until you’re ready to invest. And when new clients open an account today, you can get an extra fifty-dollar bonus with a deposit of five hundred dollars or more.) Terms apply. Tim Ferriss receives cash compensation from Wealthfront Brokerage, LLC for advertising and holds a non-controlling equity interest in the corporate parent of Wealthfront Brokerage. Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 900 million downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running. Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/ Follow the Tim Ferriss Podcast: https://tim.blog/podcast/ Visit the Tim Ferriss Blog: https://tim.blog/ Follow Tim Ferriss on Twitter:   / tferriss   Follow Tim Ferriss on Instagram:   / timferriss   Like Tim Ferriss on Facebook:   / timferriss   [00:00] Start [00:47] Kevin Rose starts the party like it's 2004. [02:46] Ev's first internet product. [04:18] How technology became social for Ev. [06:25] The simple idea behind Mozi. [07:47] Strategic quitting vs. sunk-cost perseverance. [14:49] How Odeo begat Twitter. [18:38] Twitter's $11,000 SXSW 2007 inflection point. [20:08] Ev's hopes for Mozi's evolution. [21:42] Favorite books and information inputs. [26:08] Raising a generation to co-exist with AI. [32:14] Ev's billboard. [35:04] How Ev learned to manage his feelings. [36:19] Facing strangers as an introvert with the Hoffman Process. [39:08] Recently adopted habits that have galvanized positive change. [42:04] The silver lining of being fired from Twitter. [45:02] Contemplating how the universe works with The One by Heinrich Päs. [47:00] How Ev stocks his reading list arsenal. [50:29] Big thoughts on a Medium regret. [53:02] Resisting the urge to bloat Mozi with superfluous features. [56:02] How Mozi balances privacy with utility. [58:08] Parting thoughts.
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